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src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1334128538826196445.post-2259610452451066345</id><published>2010-04-06T14:39:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-06T14:45:13.220-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Two (Well One and a Half) Interesting Sites</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.yournextmp.com/"&gt;A guide to who standing in your constituency.&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.democracyclub.org.uk/aboutus/"&gt;And a good idea.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;...&lt;a href="http://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/article.php?id=185"&gt;Whilst we are on the subject of good 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href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2010/04/two-well-one-and-half-interesting-sites.html' title='Two (Well One and a Half) Interesting Sites'/><author><name>Hull Road Liberal Democrats</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02980601963794063551</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1334128538826196445.post-1306944021097455975</id><published>2010-01-01T05:18:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-01T05:50:26.486-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Would They be Saying This if He was White?</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;The BNP are the only British party of note to support that barbaric Third World concept of punishment-the death penalty. For years they have been trying to suggest that blacks and Asians control the drugs trade. Many drug dealers are black and Asian that is true. However, the evidence suggests that the BNP contains many drug dealers and gangsters within its own ranks. Is it protecting its commercial interests? I think so. A quick study of the backgrounds of the EDL leadership and their sponsors shows a similar business background. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;This blogger is an advocate of the end of substance prohibition. The BNP a strong advocate of prohibition. This is doubtless because if the trade was legalised they would lose their biggest backers and a large chunk of their rasion de etre.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;The ironic part of this story comes from the BNP's reaction to the sad end to the story of &lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/28/akmal-shaikh-execution-china"&gt;Akmal Shaikh.&lt;/a&gt; The petty semi-literate BNP hack that wrote this piece really let their guard down and exposed the deep well of sadistic hate and small minded, foolish, myopic cynicism which lies at the heart of the BNP. &lt;a href="http://bnp.org.uk/2009/12/china-shows-world-how-to-deal-with-drug-pushers/"&gt;Read it.&lt;/a&gt; Playing on the ignorance and trust of their likely audience the BNP has deliberately obscured key facts about Akmal's life, his mental illness (obviously true from his behavior and which puts the allegations of "sexual harassment"* in context even if it does not excuse them) and that he can't have been much more than five when he came to the UK. This BNP hack is clearly ignorant (probably willfully), that once naturalised as British Akmal would have been free to apply as a Briton to live and work in the USA. A writer with any sense, or at least one with any journalistic backbone who was not a pathological deceiver, would not have grasped at such straws to make a point-even if they did not believe that non-whites could be British.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;In a sense we can be thankful. This article of Jan Moirish scale ghastliness, and with the BNP's high level of support within the drug dealing community, hipocracy, provides brilliant evidence of how indecent they are.        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1334128538826196445-1306944021097455975?l=liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/feeds/1306944021097455975/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2010/01/would-they-be-saying-this-if-he-was.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/1306944021097455975'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/1306944021097455975'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2010/01/would-they-be-saying-this-if-he-was.html' title='Would They be Saying This if He was White?'/><author><name>Hull Road Liberal Democrats</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02980601963794063551</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1334128538826196445.post-2639298231788036780</id><published>2009-12-15T08:09:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-12-15T08:24:12.270-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Enoch and Joe Are Proud of Their Son...</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;This needs further circulation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;I've already written at length about Nigel Dawkins' socialism, yet now it sounds as if he he is sticking a national in front of his socialism. Birmingham's Tories are well known for running a command economy, primed by public spending, but Dawkins' outburst was extreme. He is going to have to seek votes at next years General Election from two of the BNP's best wards at next years election-but this speech makes our council appear absurd. Even Joe Chamberlain and Enoch who now adorns BNP t-shirts (as well as possibly that dictatorial r'tard Neville Chamberlain) the last lot of Little Englanders to come out of Birmingham and onto the national stage, embarrassing their city did not make fools of themselves &lt;a href="http://www.birminghampost.net/comment/birmingham-columnists/2009/12/05/iron-angle-nigel-s-a-chocolate-soldier-65233-25307207/"&gt;like this&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;*Note that the article comes from the reliably Conservative Birmingham Post.       &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Edit:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;I'm still laughing at the bit where he called Cadbury a 'national champion'           &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1334128538826196445-2639298231788036780?l=liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/feeds/2639298231788036780/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/12/enoch-and-joe-are-proud-of-their-son.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/2639298231788036780'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/2639298231788036780'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/12/enoch-and-joe-are-proud-of-their-son.html' title='Enoch and Joe Are Proud of Their Son...'/><author><name>Hull Road Liberal Democrats</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02980601963794063551</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1334128538826196445.post-4973402714688291317</id><published>2009-12-14T11:44:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-12-14T11:46:39.825-08:00</updated><title type='text'>I Think This Just About Sums it Up</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;At the end of the decade &lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/14_12_09_portrait.pdf"&gt;this picture&lt;/a&gt;, courtesy of BBC News Magazine, is the best representation of the decade I have seen thus far.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1334128538826196445-4973402714688291317?l=liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/feeds/4973402714688291317/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/12/i-think-this-just-about-sums-it-up.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/4973402714688291317'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/4973402714688291317'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/12/i-think-this-just-about-sums-it-up.html' title='I Think This Just About Sums it Up'/><author><name>Hull Road Liberal Democrats</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02980601963794063551</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1334128538826196445.post-6561046125550773740</id><published>2009-11-18T07:07:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2009-11-18T07:15:54.975-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Redwatch Are Morons (Just in Case You Didn't Already Know)</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;One of my life ambitions is to get on 'Redwatch', the neo-Nazi and proud site that hosts pictures of the people they see as "race-enemies'. I quite like the idea of being a race enemy, it would make me feel that I had achieved something and that my message was getting through to the right people.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Anyway I was browsing their site, I'm slightly jealous because several of my mates are on their and I came across this image, with this caption. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Information on These Red Scumbags Will be Much Appreciated.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.aryanunity.com/redwatchonline/07assort8.jpg" style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 768px; height: 1024px;" border="0" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;I'm terribly sorry but unless I am horribly mistaken then that is an image of Tony Benn and his Granddaughter, who is standing as a Labour candidate at the next election. I am rather shocked because I would have expected Redwatch, despite being knuckle dragger's capable only of a literary tone bowed from the Daily Star, to at least "know their enemy".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Come on Redwatch.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;The Benn family are part of the left-wing aristocracy I would have expected you to at least know who the hell he was!   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1334128538826196445-6561046125550773740?l=liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/feeds/6561046125550773740/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/11/redwatch-are-morons-just-in-case-you.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/6561046125550773740'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/6561046125550773740'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/11/redwatch-are-morons-just-in-case-you.html' title='Redwatch Are Morons (Just in Case You Didn&apos;t Already Know)'/><author><name>Hull Road Liberal Democrats</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02980601963794063551</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1334128538826196445.post-4006065707581188367</id><published>2009-11-14T10:51:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-11-14T11:05:46.295-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Free Book</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Slightly random this. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;I've been tipped off that the Taxpayers Alliance are giving away copies of their new europhobic book, &lt;a href="http://www.newscred.com/article/show/title/a-free-book-about-why-britain-would-be-better-off-out-of-the-european-union-4af6d5a486d19/2248438"&gt;'&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.newscred.com/article/show/title/a-free-book-about-why-britain-would-be-better-off-out-of-the-european-union-4af6d5a486d19/2248438"&gt;Ten Years On: Britain Without the European Union'&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/i&gt;for free via a front organisation &lt;a href="http://www.greateudebate.com/"&gt;'The Great Debate'.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;I am inclined personally towards the European Union-although I am a critical supporter as such I have ordered my copy. I intend to flog it to a local second-hand book shop I know in Digbeth and make a few quid.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;The TA or should I say "Great Debate" are giving away 5,000 copies so hopefully there are quite a few left...&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Here's the &lt;a href="http://www.greateudebate.com/order/"&gt;link to the order form&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;*Please note that I do not endorse the Taxpayers Alliance or this book-just like free stuff.*&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1334128538826196445-4006065707581188367?l=liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/feeds/4006065707581188367/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/11/free-book.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/4006065707581188367'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/4006065707581188367'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/11/free-book.html' title='Free Book'/><author><name>Hull Road Liberal Democrats</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02980601963794063551</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1334128538826196445.post-688579366721017395</id><published>2009-10-19T10:47:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-10-27T09:42:30.385-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Nick Griffin's Gay Teenage Affair</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;I have heard rumours that Nick Griffin's first experience of love was with Martin Webster-an unrepentant neo-fascist, 16 years his senior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According to &lt;a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/elections/article6493540.ece"&gt;The Times&lt;/a&gt; in 1975 when Griffin was 16 he knocked on the door of Webster's flat, virtually moving in with him and beginning a two year affair that lasted until he went to Cambridge. Griffin was a lonely youth, bullied at school where his nickname was 'Nick the prick' (both wonderful alliteration and spot on), always close to his parents Griffin became involved in national-socialist politics through them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is however doubtful that the conservatively minded Griffins knew about their son's blossoming romance with Webster. At the time the 16 year old Griffin's relationship with the 32 year old Webster was illegal (the UK's age of consent was equalised in 2000 at 16, in 1975-77 it was 21). Ironically the BNP has campaigned against homosexuals and specifically against the equalisation of the age of consent. Its almost as if Griffin has something to prove...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;We can of course add to the mix the tales which circulate about Nick Griffin's relationships with his own male subordinates-especially the younger ones. It is also important to bear in mind that other prominent BNP figures like Richard Barnbroke             &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;and Martin Reynolds have been involved in various homosexual, activities (and there just the ones that have been filmed). Now, if most people were bi or homosexual I for one would have no problem with it. However, the BNP are the cheerleaders for that part of British society that is stuck in the Post-War era. They hate diversity of all kinds, and like all bullies pick on people for what they can't help and what no one else finds a problem. I think that it is quite frankly sickening that a man who's lover would have been prosecuted for their relationship could go against a law that would recognise such relationships as fine. The BNP is home to many homosexuals-so it surprises me that the party is as blatantly homophobic as it is.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Reliability&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I am inclined to believe this story, however, its reliability can be disputed. Obviously the affair was secret so only two people know how true the story is. Webster and Griffin. Nick Griffin denies that the story is true, calling Mr. Webster 'a sad old queen'. However, he does admit to having 'spent the night' at Webster's home. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Webster for his part is very keen to tell his story, this keenness combined with the fact that he was expelled from the Griffin controlled 'Political Soldier' wing of the National Front in 1983, does potentially count against him. Webster has since been shut out of mainstream far-right politics-in part because of his openness about his sexuality.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Yet, I think that Webster's expulsion from the party by Griffin does count in his story's favor. I am not altogether familiar with the machinations of the far-right, however, Griffin is a man of few scruples, and I judge him fully capable of ditching a skilled and popular activist like Webster (who once polled 12% at  West Bromwich in the February 1974 General Election-a record result for the NF), just because he was worried that the secret of his little affair would get out.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;...Yet another example of how lacking in principle Nick Griffin is.      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1334128538826196445-688579366721017395?l=liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/feeds/688579366721017395/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/10/nick-griffins-gay-teenage-affair.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/688579366721017395'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/688579366721017395'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/10/nick-griffins-gay-teenage-affair.html' title='Nick Griffin&apos;s Gay Teenage Affair'/><author><name>Hull Road Liberal Democrats</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02980601963794063551</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1334128538826196445.post-213775834365682287</id><published>2009-09-24T10:13:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-24T10:31:11.535-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Dear UK Nationalists-I Don't Want to Be Associated With You So Stop Using my Letter. Thanks</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;I have been rather amazed in recent weeks to find myself the darling of the far-right. I mean WTF? I always knew nationalists were thick, but come on. Actually read the letter for God's sake!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0);"&gt;Dear Editor, I would like to start by apologising to the people of Birmingham for the events of Saturday evening which I am highly ashamed to have been a part of. However, as a moderate who took part in the UAF protest I would like to set the record straight.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0);"&gt;I, like the vast majority of people in Birmingham love the fact that &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;our city is so diverse and vibrant&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;{I never knew it was Stormfront policy to give a platform to the supporters of pluralism?}&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;. I felt that this was worth defending, especially from &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;bunch of trouble makers&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;{Since when was calling people 'troublemakers' any kind of endorsement?)&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; many of whom were from outside the city.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0);"&gt;Unfortunately it turned out the UAF were no more interested in our community than &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;the racists&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;{A normal person would have got the hint by now. Your not finding any love here (I'm also talking to the pseudo-Marxist retards who think I'm some kind of Neo-Nazi meat-puppet)}&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; many of us turned out to &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;oppose&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;{Please note that word.}!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0);"&gt;The young Muslims who rampaged through the city streets were incited to violence by UAF activists. I was near the front of the rally in Rotunda Square and I saw how they worked and I saw how it got out of hand.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0);"&gt;The UAF should have switched rhetoric when they saw that the young Muslims were getting restless and angry. Instead what they did was get increasingly aggressive speakers to talk about ‘smashing the BNP’ (who not directly involved with the protest) whilst sending agitators into the crowd, with megaphones, to whip up anger there.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0);"&gt;Only a few members of the Socialist Workers party, some trade unionists and a few moderate Muslim blokes who had been recruited as marshals on the day, remained to help the Police calm the riot.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0);"&gt;I would like to commend the West Midlands Police Force for their sensitive handling of the protest and us protesters during what was a very difficult situation.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0);"&gt;However, the ten or so &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;members of the Muslim community&lt;/span&gt; who stayed with the protest whilst it was settled are the true &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;unsung heroes&lt;/span&gt; of the sad event&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;{It amazes me that your average racist is so inbred as to not take umbridge at that. Come on I thought the fascist moron was an invention of UAF propaganda?} &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0);"&gt;I never got to know their names, however, I am very proud to have worked with them in defusing the tensions that built up between rioters and Police. A true example of why our city is great.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0);"&gt;As to the UAF well, I don’t mind announcing that I will never join one of their protests again. Once again I can only say how sorry I am that it all got so out of hand. If we had known how it would turn out then I’m sure a lot of protesters would have stayed home.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0);"&gt;The UAF has achieved nothing except to create racial tensions were non existed before.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0);"&gt;Yours in penance,&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0);"&gt;Josh Allen, Bournville&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;Has cleared it up?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yeah, that's really supporting you. Did I say anywhere that your racist and fundermentally unbritish actions were a good thing? I think not. Read through the rest of this blog, you might find out some stuff you didn't know before about your arse-master Nick Griffin. How did he make his millions?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh yes, by &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;finding work for third world immigrants&lt;/span&gt;-ironic that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1334128538826196445-213775834365682287?l=liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/feeds/213775834365682287/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/09/dear-uk-nationalists-i-dont-want-to-be.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/213775834365682287'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/213775834365682287'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/09/dear-uk-nationalists-i-dont-want-to-be.html' title='Dear UK Nationalists-I Don&apos;t Want to Be Associated With You So Stop Using my Letter. Thanks'/><author><name>Hull Road Liberal Democrats</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02980601963794063551</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1334128538826196445.post-2027859112859921616</id><published>2009-09-19T12:24:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-20T13:15:12.242-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The English Defence League: What We Know About Them</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;The Basics&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;*Founded in around about April 2009. The group came into existence in &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luton"&gt;Luton&lt;/a&gt;. Luton is economically depressed following the closure of&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt; much of its auto-engineering and electronics production industries. The city is largely white, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;ho&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;wever, the towns central residential districts are home to a large population of Musli&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;m immigrants. The younger ones are mostly the third generation out of Pakistan-their gr&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;andparent's&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt; having come to work in the car plants etc.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;*The catalyst for the group was the protest by a small group of Islamic extremists against the returning troops of the Anglian Regiment. However, &lt;a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6815758.ece"&gt;racial tensions&lt;/a&gt; have been running high for years, with the BNP and NF entrenched in the town. All a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;ccounts suggest that the protesters were members of a small break away m&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;osque, all you&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;ng blokes with few prospects. About twenty of them gathered behind a police lin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;e whilst t&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;he Anglian troops marched past holding placards reading 'Anglian Murderers'.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.englishdefenceleague.org/images/lutontaliban.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 210px; height: 205px;" src="http://www.englishdefenceleague.org/images/lutontaliban.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;-What ever your views about the propriety of their actions they were breaking no law and merely exercising their right to peaceful protest.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;*Nevertheless the group, who are well known around Luton, came un&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;d&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;er attack from the crowd that gathered had gathered to watch the parade. They be&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;gan chanting 'we pay your benefits' (rather ironic as they had nothing better to do themselves on an afternoon mid-week). They clustered around the Islamic protesters-who we&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;re now chanting provocatively Allah, Akbar. The police couldn't cont&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;ain the crowd and scuffles broke out, the crowd forcing the police protecting the demonstrators&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt; back under a hail of bottles.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;*The police had not turned out in force and they were soon overwhelmed&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;. The Islamic protesters were chased across Luton eventually been corral&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;led by a reinfo&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;rced police presence in front of Luton's main shopping mall. The&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt; crowd th&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;en threw bacon at the protesters.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;*The English Defence League first appeared approximately one month after the incident at the parade. It is fair to say with hindsight that the para&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;de w&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;as the culmination of tensions dating back many years. A few years ago there was a large riot in Luton outside a Muslim owned bakery-for example. However, the parade &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;disturbance appeared to blow the safety off. In the weeks that followed there, were a seri&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;es of racial ass&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;au&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;lts perpetrated by both communities. As in the Netherlands following the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_van_Gogh_%28film_director%29"&gt;murder of Theo Van Gough&lt;/a&gt; windows were broken at both mosques and churches on consecutive nights.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;*However, the ethnic minority community-thanks no doubt to their status as the minority-suffered the worst. &lt;a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6487683.ece"&gt;Luton's Sikh Lord Mayor&lt;/a&gt; was assaulted d&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;uring a parade, swastikas and racist slogans appeared on walls across the town, a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;mosque as fire bombed and Asian owned stores subjected to attack.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;*This period of civic unrest culminated on the 24th May in a seemingly spontaneous (although almost certainly pre-arranged) demonstration which same crowds of young, tanked up men marching through the deserted streets of Luton, past shuttere&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;d shops, carrying England flags and home made placards, proclaiming themselves 'against Islam'. Later some of their more "eloquent", or at least aware, a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;po&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;logists, like &lt;a href="http://lionheartuk.blogspot.com/"&gt;Lionheart's Blog&lt;/a&gt; and BBC Radio Five Live claimed the march was against 'terrorism', however, we can only go by the words and actions of &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCvQ24KHofc"&gt;the marchers themselves&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://italianlads.fotoblog.it/photos/00/01/1912697034.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 468px; height: 286px;" src="http://italianlads.fotoblog.it/photos/00/01/1912697034.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;*The origins of the EDL are murky. Lionheart (Paul Ray) claims to have been involved with setting up the group. His main concern is Islamification of what he considers a righteous, Christian nation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;*Other founding members have more earthly, alth&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;ough equ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;ally extreme, motivations. Wigan Mike a known Nazi has been spotted on EDL demonstrations. Mike appears to be a character rather like the ageing neo-Nazi pseudo-intellectual in '&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_History_X"&gt;Americ&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_History_X"&gt;an History X&lt;/a&gt;'. The group had an internal feud over the summer which saw it being taken over by the Renton Brothers. The brothers are on the extremist-wing of the B&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;NP with connections to &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_18"&gt;C18.&lt;/a&gt; The brothers take over led to a split in the organisation and the dep&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;arture of many of the very few non-white members. One person who left was Lionheart. However, he has now &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;been reconciled to the group. Possibly because his American sponsors dumped him following an outburst on talk-radio about 'dam pakis taking over the country'.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;*We must however, remember that the EDL's core membership is largely a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;political. It consists of working class men (&lt;a href="http://www.englishdefenceleague.org/its-our-england-edl-poem.html"&gt;and a few women&lt;/a&gt;) who are fundamentally disadvantaged and feel shut out of politics. Cynics would argue that whilst ma&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;ny of them &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;go along out of a crude dislike of foreigners and the progressive 'elite' as represented by the likes of the TUC and Ken Livingstone in &lt;a href="http://www.birminghampost.net/comment/letters-to-the-editor/2009/08/11/uaf-protester-sorry-rally-got-out-of-hand-in-birmingham-65233-24365332/"&gt;UAF&lt;/a&gt;, their main motivation is ac&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;tually the beer, camaraderie and chance of a fight.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;*This core membership is habitually Labour voting. However, as with the BNP there is no doubt a strain of working class Toryism in there as well. They have very little in common with the Liberal Democratic or Green Parties, the rural, upper-class focus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt; of UKIP, or the petty intellectual focus of most socialist parties; with their constant squabbling. Unlike the fascist phenomenon in the 1920s and '30s there is no disaffected midd&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;le-class element. In that sense they are a totally 'proletarian' grouping. Their thinkers are of th&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;e &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Rosenberg"&gt;Rosenberg&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Hess"&gt;Hess&lt;/a&gt; school as opposed to that of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Goebbels"&gt;Goebbels&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oswald_Mosely"&gt;Mosley&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q318/lutonlionheart/beacon1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 615px; height: 461px;" src="http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q318/lutonlionheart/beacon1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;In Action!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;*The EDL is entirely organised online. Without the advent of Facebook their existence would be unthinkable. Most members have never met face to face-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;or ind&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;eed spoken to each other. Since the end of May many individual 'Divisions' have sprung up around the country, as far a field as Bristol and Carlisle.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;*The groups leadership is shadowy. It appears to be led by one &lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8250017.stm"&gt;'Commander Tommy'&lt;/a&gt; a man in his early thirties who is supported by an older man calle&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;d 'Alan' who is is his second in command. The group has no formal membership structure, and little by way of a visible organisational or administrative structure. Groups appear to just emerge locally and then form their own online groups and no-doubt informal local meetings are held.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;*This contrasts with most pressure groups which are either top down affairs with a membership providing funds and letter writing muscle (the preserve of fundamentally middle-class groups like Liberty and the Campaign for Rural En&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;gland&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;). Or a pseudo-Labour Party style 'democratic-centralist' type, typical of louder, but still totally legal, groups like Amnesty International and the trade union movement. The EDL is this respect resembles an all together dodgier type of group exemplified by semi-legal groups such as Greenpeace and Father's 4 Justice. These groups tend to have a cell like structure and little by way of a public image. No spokespeople, no annual conferences-just direct action and the occasional angry statement e-mailed to a sympathetic &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;pub&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;lication or blogger. &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/00677/fathers-4-justice_677459n.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 613px; height: 462px;" src="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/00677/fathers-4-justice_677459n.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;*This structure could mean two things, or possibly both. It either represents an essentially "bottom-up" approach with these groups springing into action due to the righteous anger of citizens. That is the optimists view, cynics might be more inclined to say that the anonymity of the internet and electronic communication, allows the group to organise in such a way as to confound the security services and the police. T&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;he police have frequently commented on the fact that unlike the UAF the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;EDL never liaise with them about planned actions. This blogger is sympathetic towards those that share his dislike of the heavy hand of the state, however, &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-2U6myNnrs&amp;amp;feature=related"&gt;one does wonder why in the case of de&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-2U6myNnrs&amp;amp;feature=related"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;mocratic protest it is necessary to take such a stand?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.uaf.org.uk/GRAPgallery/0907brumgraffiti.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 787px; height: 403px;" src="http://www.uaf.org.uk/GRAPgallery/0907brumgraffiti.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;*The EDL's modus operandi appears to be, to gather where there is a football match. Ostentatiously this is because they want to see the game. However, it is worth noting that the EDL appears to have links with the; &lt;a href="http://casualsunited.webs.com/"&gt;Casual United&lt;/a&gt; group of racist football firms. It is clear that their most violent supporters are to be found where there are matches. The EDL invariably spends the early part of the afternoon before a protest drinking, getting up some Dutch courage.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;*It is clear that the protesters are worked up by &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" href="http://current.com/items/90919637_far-right-group-return-to-birmingham.htm"&gt;racist chants&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt; for e&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;xample 'who the fuck is Allah', 'shove Allah up your cunt', 'dirty Pakis out', the good old football hooligan classic 'Engerland, Engerland' and their key slogans 'we want our country back' and 'Muslim bombers, off our streets!'.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;*The protest usually gets going after five O'clock once the match is finished. Although as the group has grown they have come to rely less on football matches, so now hold protests a little earlier in the afternoon. Although never before three O&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;'clock, allowing time for the consumption of alcohol in large enough quantities. EDL protests tend to take the form of marches. &lt;a href="http://www.west-midlands.police.uk/pctv/cat.asp?cat=11&amp;amp;vid=104"&gt;The police are usually take by surprise as the EDL seldom meet with them.&lt;/a&gt; It is probably reasonable to assume that because of the groups general lack of organisation the EDL leaders themselves seldom know exactly how man&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;y people are going to turn up at a given protest.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;*The EDL is a violent but essentially cowardly group. Their protests are loud, with lots of chanting and banner waving. However, they are easily scared, running from counter protesters and hiding behind their police guardians. It is unfair to completely blame the EDL for the violence that accompanies their protests, much of it is instig&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;ated by UAF agitators and SWP activists. This blogger overheard the UAF leader Weyman Bennett say to a prominent member of the Birmingham SWP &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;'it looks like you might get your revolution after all'&lt;/span&gt; in regards to the large number of &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDVAfXqE-EY"&gt;angry young Mu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDVAfXqE-EY"&gt;slim men&lt;/a&gt; who gathered to protest against the EDL demonstration on the eighth of August in Birmingham city centre. His tone of voice and facial expression suggested that he wasn't joking.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="853" height="505"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/rXEX-84waGw&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;color1=0x5d1719&amp;amp;color2=0xcd311b"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/rXEX-84waGw&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;color1=0x5d1719&amp;amp;color2=0xcd311b" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="853" height="505"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;*We must however, accept that the EDL is in essence a provocative group. The sight of skinheads chanting 'we want out country back', &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" href="http://jesshurd.blogspot.com/2009/09/true-face-of-english-defence-league.html"&gt;the making of Nazi salutes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;, the usage of words like division, the racially motivated violence that follows them&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;, even the very name 'English Defence League' suggests paramilitary, white supremacist violence. As such they are the instigator and the UAF and comrades are merely the idiotic followers with ulterior motives.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;So Are the EDL Racist, Nazis?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;*Racist yes-and mostly out of happy ignorance. National socialist, yes. They&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt; are instinctively socialist and anti-internationalism as well as being deeply authoritarian. Still it would be stupid to compare them to historic groups like the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung"&gt;SA&lt;/a&gt;. They are their for much the same reasons as many of the SA were-but are poorly led and lack the commitment characteristic of such historical groups. If you want to see a modern &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Fascism"&gt;Falange&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Guard"&gt;Iron Guard&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Blackshirts"&gt;Italian Blackshirts&lt;/a&gt; look to &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobbik"&gt;Jobbik in Hungary&lt;/a&gt;. Their who we should really worry about.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_P_L02XxLyWQ/Sb2xyHnM2PI/AAAAAAAAB9k/gastAK9rfrs/s400/jobbik.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 306px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_P_L02XxLyWQ/Sb2xyHnM2PI/AAAAAAAAB9k/gastAK9rfrs/s400/jobbik.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;*In general the EDL are an association of people who like to go out at the weekend and fight people, after drinking copious amounts of booze. They do this because it distracts from their frustratingly boring and unfulfilled lives which they have little control over. The EDL gives them a purpose and comradeship. As well as a scapegoat in radical Islam. It mirrors the rise of the various national-conservative, populist parties which have risen in UKIPs wake over the last few years. Parties which try to capitalise on the sense of dislocation people feel with the current political climate.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;*A more radical party and wildly more successful party than the likes of Veratas, the English Democrats, Free England Party etc. is the BNP. I and other have devoted enough column inches to them, however, their links to the EDL are clear.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;*The EDL as has been outlined are total amateurs. The BNP are masters of organisational development and campaign running. Crap politicians, but increasingly good at getting both heard and elected. The promotional skills they show are inc&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;reasingly sophisticated and their use of the internet is at least as advanced as any other British political party. My guess is that they are providing the EDL with both technical and financial support. Chris Renton, half of the Renton brothers duo, is the EDL's webmaster-despite his party officially declaring that &lt;a href="http://bnp.org.uk/2009/09/the-english-defence-league-a-statement-from-the-bnp%E2%80%99s-national-organiser/"&gt;'the party has no interst in the type of confrontation the EDL wish to seek&lt;/a&gt;'. This is blatantly untrue, as shown by the BNPs arms training for members and Nick Griffin's talk of 'race war' and very recently 'a second English civil war'. The stuff of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helter_Skelter_%28Manson_scenario%29"&gt;Charles Manson&lt;/a&gt; not normal politicians.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;*In a similar vein, after the 8/8 (ironically neo-Nazi code for 'Heil Hitler&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;', coincidence?) protest in Birmingham Griffin and Derby both expressed the view that the EDL was a positive for the party as it proved &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrOVjrRWdRU"&gt;'them right&lt;/a&gt;' about the effects of mass immigration.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*The EDL are very clearly part of a larger trend. The white working class feel betrayed. Traditional British institutions are failing to deal with the pressure that has built up. Labour no longer backs them. The EDL suits the BNPs Naziesque motives very well. Ever since his "&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_Soldier"&gt;political soldier days&lt;/a&gt;", Nick Griffin has wanted a semi-legal army of street thugs, to promote the white nationalist message by force. It would appear t&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;hat he now has such a group.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;                    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/jun2009/5/3/nick-griffin-image-1-896348983.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 450px; height: 350px;" src="http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/jun2009/5/3/nick-griffin-image-1-896348983.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1334128538826196445-2027859112859921616?l=liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/feeds/2027859112859921616/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/09/english-defence-league-what-we-know.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/2027859112859921616'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/2027859112859921616'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/09/english-defence-league-what-we-know.html' title='The English Defence League: What We Know About Them'/><author><name>Hull Road Liberal Democrats</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02980601963794063551</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_P_L02XxLyWQ/Sb2xyHnM2PI/AAAAAAAAB9k/gastAK9rfrs/s72-c/jobbik.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1334128538826196445.post-4461122647649911387</id><published>2009-07-19T09:42:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-07-19T10:45:18.176-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='BNP policies'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='anti-BNP'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='what the BNP really think'/><title type='text'>A Summery of the BNP's Platform</title><content type='html'>Another post on this same old topic! This was typed at speed onto a forum so I'm sorry if its not fully coherent. I might go over it again later.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That the BNP wanted to reduce the "ethnic minority" population of the UK to around 1-2%  is well known. What is less well known is that they want to abolish all of the equality laws and any group that h&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.morisecomics.com/portfolio/GOVERNMENT-CENSORSHIP.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 510px; height: 352px;" src="http://www.morisecomics.com/portfolio/GOVERNMENT-CENSORSHIP.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;as been set up for minorities using public funds. Personally I think that is going a little to far, but I agree with it in principle. However, the BNP have another policy on expression. They want to establish a commission to investigate and prevent "political slander", making it illegal to spread lies about political parties. In a similar vein they want to 'reduce' foreign ownership of the British media, 'clear up' the BBC and launch a crusade against immorality and rubbish on TV.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In a similar vein they support extensive devolution. They want every parish or urban ward to be largely autonomous with a board elect&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://howtodoeverything.today.com/files/2008/11/electoral-college-comic.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 408px; height: 422px;" src="http://howtodoeverything.today.com/files/2008/11/electoral-college-comic.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;ed by local people at public meetings. Again, it sounds very laudable. Until you hear that these boards are little more than electoral colleges for electing the district councils and county councils that will make the real decisions (effectively taking democracy out of the peoples hands). Another worrying thing is that these 'local boards' will be able to decide who gets what in terms of social welfare and will be able to set punishments for minor criminals (without judicial trial). Obviously a ward or parish of around 3,000 is not large enough to provide an effective form of governance in this day and age so all decisions of note will be taken by district or county councils which are answerable to the local boards-not to the electorate. When I read the BNP's paper in which they outlined these proposals I was interested to see that no provision was made for a secrete ballot for local board elections.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.meanfiddler.com/upload/ClubNights/OnePartyState.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 300px; height: 240px;" src="http://www.meanfiddler.com/upload/ClubNights/OnePartyState.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;At a national level the situation is similar. The BNP want to create national parliaments for all four constituent nations, which will be appointed by local county councils, instead of being directly elected. The Westminster Parliament will cease to exist a new 'Council of the Isles' being established on the Isle of Mann (the BNP state that they want the RoI to reunite with the 6 counties, or at least accept the Council of the Isles as the supreme decision making body). The Council of the Isles will be elected using closed list proportional representation, thus severing the constituency link and giving people no say over who actually gets elected beyond a percentage (list PR is relatively easy to manipulate), MPs would have no independence from their party being dependent upon their position on the list.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In terms of law and society the BNP would introduce the death penalty for murder, terrorism o&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sqwLFuuMl2s/Rh2HiuWDyiI/AAAAAAAAAEo/7zHWr5Lphrk/s400/H-Aftermath+of+Iran+hanging.bmp"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 294px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sqwLFuuMl2s/Rh2HiuWDyiI/AAAAAAAAAEo/7zHWr5Lphrk/s400/H-Aftermath+of+Iran+hanging.bmp" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;offences and paedophilia. Their position on anti-terror and criminal legislation is generally unknown beyond a pledge to 'do what it takes'. They are known to be sceptical about trial by jury. There sentencing and prison policy can be best described as 'brutal'. The party's long standing commitment to outlawing homosexual acts and castrating/executing active homosexuals was recent relaxed to one of helping those who wish to change. The BNP's views on the monarchy are ambivalent.&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.unknownhighway.com/images/uploads/corporal_punishment_image.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 390px; height: 647px;" src="http://www.unknownhighway.com/images/uploads/corporal_punishment_image.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The party supports segregated schooling and plan to send non 'British' pupils to schools that teach them about 'their culture'. Those who are seen as native shall be sent to either a Celtic or Anglo-Saxon school depending on where about's in the country it is and their family ancestry. Learning foreign languages will be discouraged whilst learning your 'native language' (which in the case of Anglo-Saxon, at least, &lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://germandressdaggers.com/Standarte%20DAF%201a.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 339px; height: 400px;" src="http://germandressdaggers.com/Standarte%20DAF%201a.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;never died out, just evolved) will be compulsory. Teaching will go back to how it was 50 years ago, strict uniform codes will be introduced and corporal punishment introduced. Membership of youth organisations will be compulsory as will be participation in 'traditional festivals' (the festivals are compulsory for all ages).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the economic sphere the BNP back nationalisation of certain strategic industries, utilities and transport firms. As well as the establishment of corporate enterprises which sound not dissimilar to those of Mussolini. They also want to end free trade and raise taxes.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1334128538826196445-4461122647649911387?l=liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/feeds/4461122647649911387/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/07/summery-of-bnps-platform.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/4461122647649911387'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/4461122647649911387'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/07/summery-of-bnps-platform.html' title='A Summery of the BNP&apos;s Platform'/><author><name>Hull Road Liberal Democrats</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02980601963794063551</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sqwLFuuMl2s/Rh2HiuWDyiI/AAAAAAAAAEo/7zHWr5Lphrk/s72-c/H-Aftermath+of+Iran+hanging.bmp' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1334128538826196445.post-5043069893426960556</id><published>2009-05-13T12:31:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-06-14T07:08:51.445-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Steve McCabe MP'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Selly Oak Labour Party'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Selly Oak Labour candidate'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Selly Oak Candidates'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Steve McCabe'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hall Green Labour Party'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Candidates for Selly Oak'/><title type='text'>Steve McCabe (Leveling the Score)</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44283000/jpg/_44283634_steve_mccabe203.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 203px; height: 152px;" src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44283000/jpg/_44283634_steve_mccabe203.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;I am fully aware that the Conservative Party and their Selly Oak candidate Nigel Dawkins have come under a lot of criticism from me in the past. For this reason I have decided to even the score and publish a peice on Steve McCabe, the Labour candidate for our fair constituency.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Who the Hell is Steve McCabe?                   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;A fair question, I would like to add. Steve McCabe's official biography found on his &lt;a href="http://www.stevemccabe-mp.org.uk/"&gt;constituency site,&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;states that he was born in Glasgow in 1955. He trained as a social worker in the 1970s and moved to Bradford where he worked with young offenders and in child protection. He moved to Birmingham in the mid 1980s and began lecturing in social work at North Worcestershire Collage.&lt;br /&gt; Elected to Birmingham City Council in 1990, McCabe was made chair of the Transport Committee and won an award for the committee's pioneering work. He was elected as MP for Hall Green in 1997.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since 1997 McCabe has been a committed party loyalist and a blairite of the highest order. He has moved swiftly up the party ranks holding a series of Select Committee and (very) Junior Ministerial posts. Since 2007 he has been a leading whip.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;McCabe's voting record&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;There have been few (or indeed no) times since 1997 when McCabe has voted against his parties leadership. As such it would not be unfair to describe him as 'lobby-fodder'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;His record on many topics sickens me and I do not intend to lend him my vote. According to &lt;a href="http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/stephen_mccabe/birmingham,_hall_green"&gt;They Work For You&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McCabe has consistently voted against civil liberties: voting very strongly for Labour's "anti-terror" legislation e.g. 2005 Terrorism Act, Detention Without Trail for 28 Days (longer than in Iran, Russia and China), Control Orders and the restriction of habeas corpus. He voted for ID Cards and has voted against an Iraq War inquiry. He also voted in favour of renewing Trident and for the War in Iraq.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He has voted consistently in favour of Labour's privatisation and deregulation measures. This interestingly puts him way to the right of &lt;a href="http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/04/introducing-comrade-dawkins.html"&gt;Nigel Dawkins&lt;/a&gt;. McCabe has voted in favour of top-up fees and Foundation Hospitals.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Socially McCabe has again voted at his parties beck and call. Here my support is more mixed. Whilst I am inclined to support McCabe's economic stance I feel that he mostly just acted as 'lobby fodder' and betrayed the beliefs of many of his constituents. On social policy I am pleased that he voted strongly in favour of homosexual rights, as a non smoker and a civil libertarian I am also pleased that he voted moderately for the smoking ban. However, he also voted for the Hunting Ban and did not go the whole way when it came to climate change legislation. Again this was fully in line with the expectations of his Party...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And on the issue of the moment? Steve McCabe voted strongly against a "transparent" parliament.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 204);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;$Expenses$&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;McCabe's expenses record is below as is a link to the Daily Telegraph article on his &lt;a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5345304/Steve-McCabe.html"&gt;Second Home Allowance over claim&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.stevemccabe-mp.org.uk/"&gt; &lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="block" id="expenses"&gt;      &lt;h4&gt;Expenses&lt;/h4&gt;      &lt;div class="blockbody"&gt; &lt;p class="italic"&gt;Figures in brackets are ranks. Parliament's &lt;a href="http://www.parliament.uk/site_information/allowances.cfm"&gt;explanatory notes&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table class="people"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;th&gt;Type&lt;/th&gt;&lt;th&gt;2007/08 (ranking out of 645)&lt;/th&gt;&lt;th&gt;2006/07 (ranking out of 645)&lt;/th&gt;&lt;th&gt;2005/06&lt;/th&gt;&lt;th&gt;2004/05 (ranking out of 659)&lt;/th&gt;&lt;th&gt;2003/04 (ranking out of 658)&lt;/th&gt;&lt;th&gt;2002/03 (ranking out of 657)&lt;/th&gt;&lt;th&gt;2001/02 (ranking out of 657)&lt;/th&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="row-1"&gt;Additional Costs Allowance&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£17,109 (460th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£12,092 (538th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£11,488&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£14,010 (505th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£12,970 (520th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£14,597 (531st)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£16,276 (joint 140th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="row-2"&gt;London Supplement&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£0&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£0&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£0&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£0&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£0&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£0&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£0&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="row-1"&gt;Incidental Expenses Provision&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£23,103 (89th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£27,961 (42nd)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£20,196&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£17,270 (399th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£4,157 (655th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£6,862 (643rd)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£15,675 (329th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="row-2"&gt;Staffing Allowance&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£84,464 (428th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£74,327 (566th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£50,952&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£52,423 (638th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£40,726 (655th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£55,488 (582nd)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£42,909 (442nd)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="row-1"&gt;Communications Allowance&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£6,416 (395th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;N/A&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;N/A&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;N/A&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;N/A&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;N/A&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;N/A&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="row-2"&gt;Members' Travel&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£9,399 (243rd)&lt;sup&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/stephen_mccabe/birmingham,_hall_green#travel2008"&gt;*&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£7,745 (312th)&lt;sup&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/stephen_mccabe/birmingham,_hall_green#travel2007"&gt;**&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£4,281&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£7,721 (436th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£6,652 (457th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£5,844 (494th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£4,705 (482nd)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="row-1"&gt;Members' Staff Travel&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£1,007 (joint 99th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£1,263 (93rd)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£1,555&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£0&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£163 (joint 379th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£163 (394th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£0&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="row-2"&gt;Members' Spouse Travel&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£0&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;N/A&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;N/A&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;N/A&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;N/A&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;N/A&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;N/A&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="row-1"&gt;Members' Family Travel&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£0&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;N/A&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;N/A&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;N/A&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;N/A&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;N/A&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;N/A&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="row-2"&gt;Centrally Purchased Stationery&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£1,351 (121st)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£4,063 (22nd)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£1,944&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£4,850 (22nd)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£953 (276th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£729 (joint 457th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£752 (429th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="row-1"&gt;Stationery: Associated Postage Costs&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£1,945 (379th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£11,530 (25th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£6,903&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£13,630 (23rd)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£3,147 (248th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;N/A&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;N/A&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="row-2"&gt;Centrally Provided Computer Equipment&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£1,566 (12th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£1,371 (25th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£1,895&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£1,748 (joint 491st)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£1,748 (joint 482nd)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£1,718 (470th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£0&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="row-1"&gt;Other Costs&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£0&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£0&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£0&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£0&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£0&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£0&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-1"&gt;£0&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;th style="text-align: right;"&gt;Total&lt;/th&gt;&lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£146,360 (332nd)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£140,352 (joint 277th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£99,214&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£111,652 (529th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£70,516 (656th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£85,401 (632nd)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td class="row-2"&gt;£80,317 (485th)&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a name="travel2008"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;sup&gt;*&lt;/sup&gt; &lt;small&gt;Regular journeys between home/constituency/Westminster: Mileage £874 (533rd). Rail £8,214 (82nd). Other: Rail £311 (61st). &lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a name="travel2007"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;sup&gt;**&lt;/sup&gt; &lt;small&gt;Car £1,532 (482nd). Rail £6,213 (126th). &lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;/div&gt;     &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Analysis&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;McCabe appears to have been a fairly effective Constituency MP (if anyone wants to contradict me please do so in the comment box). However, will he make a better Selly Oak MP than Nigel Dawkins? Dawkins strikes me as a bit of a maverick, but essentially lobby fodder. My guess is that he lacks what it takes to step into the shoes of Anthony &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"&gt;Beaumont-Dark and Lynne Jones.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Obviously I am inclined to support Selly Oak Ward councillor and Liberal Democratic candidate &lt;a href="http://sellyoaklibdems.org.uk/news/000051/local_lib_dem_say_its_time_to_fix_britains_broken_politics.html"&gt;Dave Radcliffe.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As it stands I feel that McCabe is to close to the party leadership, to much of a brown noser, to be a truly effective MP.  As it stands I feel that he is slightly better than Dawkins, only because Dawkins is untested and in my opinion lacks the qualities to be an MP even more than McCabe does. Dawkins propensity for ugly campaigning mars him in my eyes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1334128538826196445-5043069893426960556?l=liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/feeds/5043069893426960556/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/05/steve-mccabe-leveling-score.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/5043069893426960556'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/5043069893426960556'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/05/steve-mccabe-leveling-score.html' title='Steve McCabe (Leveling the Score)'/><author><name>Hull Road Liberal Democrats</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02980601963794063551</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1334128538826196445.post-9067874014006066249</id><published>2009-04-15T13:06:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-04-16T03:51:54.936-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nigel Dawkins for MP'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Birmingham UKIP'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Stirchly'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bournville'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Selly Oak Consitunacy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nigel Dawkins'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Cotteridge'/><title type='text'>Introducing Comrade Dawkins</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;State needs a big stake in JLR&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Dear Editor, 1948 was an important year for the British car industry. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;In that year we had the second largest car industry in the world and in spite of a world war we had an industrial base to be proud of.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;In 1948, for the first time under the new Jaguar brand name, the company launched two new models called the Mark V and later on the world famous XK 120 model. Two fabulous vehicles.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;In that same year and just down the road a certain car company, which unfortunately no longer exists, called Rover launched a new vehicle inspired by the American Jeep and using readily available aircraft aluminium – it was called the Land Rover.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Thanks to Gordon Brown we are about to get a taste of 1948. Last month the IMF predicted that the UK economy would shrink by 2.8 per cent which will be the worse contraction in our economy since 1948.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Gordon Brown’s policy of reckless borrowing is projected to leave the economy saddled with more debt than we had in 1948, and that was after we had fought and won the Second World War.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Sixty years later we now have a relatively small car industry that is almost entirely foreign owned. This country produces about 1.5 million cars a year and that production is overwhelmingly dominated by the three Japanese manufacturers Nissan, Honda, Toyota and the German manufacturer BMW.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;This almost exclusive foreign ownership of our car industry is yet another reason why this country is so ill prepared for Labour’s recession.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;As the financial crisis gets worse, we will all be forced to watch as these foreign owned companies begin to shut down or reduce car production in the UK.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;This government has had plenty of warning of this over the last 10 years about the dangers of foreign ownership but has done nothing to reverse this trend. They chose to let Rover go to the wall and they stood passively by while Jaguar and Land Rover were passed from pillar to post by foreign car companies. Owned by BMW when Labour came to power in 1997, then sold to Ford in 2000 and now sold to TATA last year.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;At the same time over the last 10 years we have seen how other foreign car companies have retreated to protect their own home production.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;This government has watched passively as Dagenham closed, as Browns Lane closed, as Ryton Closed and as Vauxhall at Luton closed.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;That is why the Government has been floundering over the last two months in response to calls for help from Jaguar Land Rover.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;They simply have no idea what they to do when confronted with the problems of trying to support foreign owned car companies.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;For two months we have had mixed messages – Gordon Brown saying he will do what he can to help and Peter Mandelson saying he will not let Jaguar Land Rover fail.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;These are all empty words and promises that will be shown to have little substance.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;If Peter Mandelson says Jaguar Land Rover will not fail what will he do when TATA tries to move production of the Defender model to India which will be a likely option for them in the future? Will Peter Mandelson try to stop it? If TATA moves the Freelander model from Merseyside to Slovakia to reduce production costs, again a serious option for TATA will Peter Mandelson stop that? Of course he won’t, TATA will do what is best for TATA. We have allowed Jaguar Land Rover to fall into foreign hands and the loss of control is the price we will pay&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Our European competitors do things differently, of course they don’t hand their industry over to foreign companies.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;The French and the Germans have not dithered for months, they have acted immediately in the national interest and offered huge financial support packages to their national car makers.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;The national German car industry employees about two million people and makes about five million cars. They have put massive loans and subsidies already into their car industry and have introduced a scheme to give new buyers a £2.5K subsidy to buy a German car.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;The French car industry produces about three million cars per year, employs over two million people and has already announced a huge range of assistance including a £1,000 subsidiary to buy a French car.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;The French Government has even hinted that they may take a stake in their own car industry.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;What companies does this government chose to take a stake in – it pours billions into the banks.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;They then put another £12 billion into a crazy wasted VAT reduction scheme.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;If this Government had the slightest idea how to support manufacturing in general or the car industry in particular then they should have bought Jaguar Land Rover last Match from Ford instead of letting it go to TATA. The price tag then was £500 million – that’s about £33K for each of its employees. That would have been a bargain.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;They could have then have put perhaps £3 billion into a development fund to built up the company and then floated it off ten years later ensuring that it remained British.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;It’s not too late. Forget about European rules on state aid, the Germans and the French have.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;This Government should seek to take a large stake in Jaguar Land Rover, perhaps even purchasing it and be prepared to make the necessary investment to build up the range of models.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" &gt;Coun Nigel Dawkins&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Birmingham City councillor for Bournville,&lt;br /&gt;Cotteridge and Stirchley.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Well, I must say I never though I'd see the day when Tory would want the state to buy a failed company. The reason that Jaguar-Land Rover keeps being put up for sale is because it is not a viable business. Dawkins is a member of the party that ran down the car industry in the first place. He is standing to represent the party that sold the remains of the British car industry to a German firm, I'm sorry but how dare he complain.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This Blogger is not a fan of neither the Thatcher or major governments but lets put this in perspective. It is an accepted part of mainstream economics that industries come and go. Both of Britian's leading party have form when it comes to nationalising failing industries. The labour Party started the trend when they went messing with coal in 1948. Labour compounded this in the 1960s by taking control of the steel industry and thus sealing the fate of British heavy industry (the contribution of Harold MacMillian who's Mussolinite corporatism saddled British industry with inefficient poorly sited plants and gave both workers and employers a raw deal in collective bargaining).  The Conservatives soon got in on the action by nationalising large chunks of the aviation and ship building industries. Ship building like coal mining had been in decline since the 1890s, but aviation wasn't doing to badly.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lets look at the car industry in more detail. I am inclined to agree with Counsellor Dawkins that in 1948 the British car industry was in a state of some strength. The ravages of war and the level of industrial development in the UK circa 1948 relative to the rest of the world meant that in 1948 the British car industry was second only to the American.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In 1948 Italy and France were recovering from war and their national car industries were a shadow of what they are today, the mighty German car industry is almost entirely a post-war construct. Volkswagon didn't produce cars in any volume until 1949, the year of the foundation of the Federal Republic. the rest of the world offered no competition, the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe (with the notable exception of Czecholslovakia) were light years behind the West. In the Far East China was experiencing civil war, Japan was a semi-industrialised American colony, South Korea was almost entirely rural. The current success stories of motor production Mexico, Turkey, Iran, Egypt barely had paved roads.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In such an economic climate is it really surprising that the UK's car industry was in such good shape? I don't wish to knock the British car industry unfairly but I think that in the 1950s a heavily protected market led to a degree of complacency that bled commercial flops. Even the iconic Mini could only be produced by the BMC at a lose!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The death knell came in the 1960s with state interference. the Planning Board bankrupted the successful Hillman company by forcing them to move production from the West Midlands to an undeveloped part of Scotland. Likewise; Tony Benn's 1969 merger of the two main players the British Motor Corporation and the Austin Motor Company into British Leyland proved a disaster. The two companies proved impossible to integrate, unionists made restructuring impossible thus destroying the entire industry, duplication and design problems lead to financial meltdown and a dwindling customer base. Leyland just could not compete with the cheaper, better engineered and styled cars from Europe and Japan. We have seen the same thing in the USA with GM, Ford and Chrysler. Then as now nationalisation beckoned...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Thatcher Government starved the car industry of funds-however, they did try to salvage what remained in the former of Rover Group. Unfortunately Rover Group failed because a company of its size just couldn't stay afloat in the world of modern mass manufacturing. The reason that Rover passed out of British hands was simple. There simply was no longer, the skill capital, or desire to keep a substantial car industry. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;The Reckoning&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The job of government is to protect the people. With the peoples consent government acts as an arbitrator in disputes through the courts and Police, thus enabling the peace to be kept. The rule of law enables people to govern themselves. The state gets it's power from the people. The only legitimate base for state power is that the people have devolved their powers to the government. The Government has a defensive role-this defence can be extended to health and social security in the form of mandatory insurance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Government has no place in industry. Industry is the providence of the private citizen. The Conservative Party has historically had a greater measure of respect for the private citizen than the Labour Party. It would appear that Nigel Dawkins wishes to cash this inheritance in at the pawnshop of broken policy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It is now recognised that the UK was never a great manufacturing nation. Britian has never had a trade surplus. Today manufacturing nations like Germany have trade surpluses of 150 Billion Euros a year. In 1900 the UK had a trade deficit equal to over £16 billion in today's money, the national income was about £400 billion a year (2008 £). The country have a massive trade deficit that was plugged by the financial service industry and shipping. The same is true today. Manufacturing contrary to popular opinion has not declined, it has merely grown more slowly than the rest of the economy.  In 2006 the UK exported nearly £450 billion worth or manufactured goods, that's more than ever before.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The UK's industrial economy has been changing for a long time. Government intervention merely makes the pains of adjustment worse. If the coal industry had been allowed to decline gracefully instead of being left to slump, maybe the coal mining communities would have been able to us their own ingenuity to adapt and improve their own lives immeasurably. Likewise government intervention in the steel and car making industries succeeded; not in helping the poor by giving them jobs but adding to their ranks by running down the industry so it couldn't compete with Europe, East Asia and Brazil. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Governments can't run companies. Governments are kept in power by voters. They can't make hard decisions that affect their workers when their workers are their bosses and pay their wages! They are in power for just over a decade at most and thus can't think about the long term. This short sightedness is great for running a county. We want leaders on their toes. We want business' on their toes, however that is business' problem not Gordon Brown's!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;A Proposal&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;If a successful firm like TATA can't make a go of Jaguar Land Rover I don't think anyone can. Dawkins concern for his constituents and the countries manufacturing base is admirable but miss placed. If the UK is to survive in the new economy it must move up the value chain. The engineers at &lt;/span&gt;Jaguar Land Rover have valuable skills that can be put to use in new firms which are viable for the next century. There is no point propping up outdated sunset industries in an overcrowded market. If the Government gives Jaguar have a billion this year it will have to give it another half a billion next year and every year. Is it really worth it? Why not give that half billion to a new West Midlands County Council (like the one that existed before Thatcher destroyed our local government)? The council could set up a new bank to support local industry. A bank that charges low interest and gives generous loans. It could underwrite new industries. New industries that will see the West Midlands made a manufacturing powerhouse once more.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I'm talking about new technologies like wind turbines and fuel cells. Highly skilled precision industries, a thousand new metal bashing shops, independent and creating real communities around those who work their.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why throw good money after bad? If Jaguar falls give the workers a hand up not a hand out.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);font-size:180%;" &gt;Don't vote Tory 2010 if you support free markets and hard work!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1334128538826196445-9067874014006066249?l=liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/feeds/9067874014006066249/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/04/introducing-comrade-dawkins.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/9067874014006066249'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/9067874014006066249'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/04/introducing-comrade-dawkins.html' title='Introducing Comrade Dawkins'/><author><name>Hull Road Liberal Democrats</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02980601963794063551</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1334128538826196445.post-9173924082248894915</id><published>2009-04-08T04:19:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-04-08T10:15:43.210-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='second hand books free listings'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='no listing fees'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='second hand books no listing fees'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='List Books'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Second hand books'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='cheap second hand books'/><title type='text'>List Books</title><content type='html'>Have found an awesome site called &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;List Books&lt;/span&gt;!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;List Books allows you to sell unwanted books for free. All you have to do is fill out a simple form for an account. To purchase you just have to click buy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The site is set out much like Amazon. Books are organised into categories much like Amazon's e.g. children's, military, thriller, gay, lesbian, transgender etc., you have the option of browsing lists or using the internal search to find a particular title.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is a reasonable chance of finding what you want; as currently just under 20,000 titles are listed. The site is being spread through word of mouth, so sales can be slow. I have around 60 titles listed at present and I've been a member for 4 days, so far I've not sold one.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The site is maintained by a Mr. Lee Penny, who seems to be a kind of wealthy eccentric. He is giving away a website that clearly has a fair degree of commercial potential and paying the running costs out of his own pocket.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The site often undercuts Amazon's market place because sellers have no listing fees, subscription or VAT  costs (most are clearly individuals getting rid of old books not dealers) . The buyer pays standard Royal Mail Rates for delivery. Unlike Amazon payment is not automated so you have to arrange payment with the seller via internet. Most sellers have paypal, although all accept cheques and postal orders.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would recommend the site to all readers, I have already told many of my freinds, it is a great service.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.listbooks.co.uk/"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);font-size:130%;" &gt;List Books home page&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1334128538826196445-9173924082248894915?l=liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/feeds/9173924082248894915/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/04/list-books.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/9173924082248894915'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/9173924082248894915'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/04/list-books.html' title='List Books'/><author><name>Hull Road Liberal Democrats</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02980601963794063551</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1334128538826196445.post-5515303707326977576</id><published>2009-03-28T11:41:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-04-22T09:54:56.895-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='BNP Party  Funding'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Easy London'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='CLEnlgish'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Londras Facile'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nick Griffin Scandle'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Roberto Fiore'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bologna Bombing'/><title type='text'>How Nick Griffin Made His Millions</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Nick Griffin is a wealthy man. He has never had to complete an honest days work in his life. When he is not jetting around the world, or travelling round the UK (in a crappy Rover 75 I would hope!) spreading the word of hate he can more often than not be found at his South Wales estate. It is here that he plays at being a country squire and hosts the annual &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;BNP&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; Red white and Blue &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Rally...&lt;/span&gt; Sorry I mean Festival.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some of this cash is old money. The Griffin's are not a a poor family. Nick's father is a successful accountant and the family trust no doubt pays out a nice annuity... This helps explain the estate, private education and most crucially why the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;BNP&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; has been able to sustain deposit crunching defeats like the 3.6% vote share bludgeoning at the by-election Henley in 2008. As a point of reference turnout was just over fifty percent and the Green party won 3.8% of the votes cast.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is not to say that Nick Griffin is just a spoiled brat who has used his daddy's money to further a frankly quite pathetic political career. No, Nick Griffin has been quite successful at adding to the family pot and by extension the coffers of the British Nationalist party. Nick Griffin is the high powered co-owner of an employment agency and foreign language school.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How decent and sensible of him you might think. Mr. Griffin is clearly a true gent, a real country squire who just wants to help all those poor, displaced White British who have been put out of a job by the unwashed hordes of French-Canadian bankers and Indian Computer Science &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;PHD's&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;. His language school must be a work of genius. You can just see it now, rows of nicotine stained old women on long term sickness benefit and paunchy skinheads sitting in a class room learning to know their enemy. May be Richard &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;barnbrooke&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; could set up a film school so they can learn how to shoot, soft, gay porn flicks? Help finance more election defeats.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However this is not how the Griffin business empire works....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In 1980, Nick Griffin became close &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;frein&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;ds&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; with &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Roberto &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;Fiore&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; a key suspect in the Bologna Railway Station Bombing. The Bologna bombing was carried out by &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;Neo&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;-Fascists in a city famous for its communist links, 85 people were killed and 200 injured in what remains one of Europe's worst peace time terrorist attacks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_13"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;Fiore&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; moved in with Griffin and the two shared rooms for several years (and possibly more if the bisexual rumours are true). The two of them developed a new ideology called 'The International Third Position'-essentially a poisonous mixture of Roman Catholicism , &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_18"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;Neo&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;-Nazism, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_19"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10"&gt;Neo&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;-Fascism and the occult. It is somewhat like the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11"&gt;Ku&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_22"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_12"&gt;Klux&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; Klan.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In more recent times Griffin and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_23"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_13"&gt;Fiore&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; have gotten into business together. It is &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_25"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_14"&gt;Fiore&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; who manages the day-to-day running of their businesses. Easy London (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_27"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_15"&gt;Londra&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; Facile) is an employment firm that assists Italian speakers in finding employment &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;in Britain&lt;/span&gt;! It is also involved with advertising in Italian speaking countries for immigrants and provides advice and naturalisation classes for those who have come over. Speaking from a liberal perspective this is a noble undertaking-but a &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_30"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_16"&gt;bizare&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; one for two virulent nationalists and noted xenophobes to be involved with. Especially if you consider the recent British Jobs Campaign.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The language school is another &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_35"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_17"&gt;bizarre&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; undertaking. CL Languages, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_36"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_18"&gt;specialises&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; in Italian but in the 10 years since it was founded has expanded into teaching other &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_37"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_19"&gt;languages&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;. The school gets a lot of its custom from new immigrants; many of whom are of African or Asian &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_38"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_20"&gt;Origin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even more &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_39"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_21"&gt;bizarrely&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; for a &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_40"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_22"&gt;successful&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; company (it has 100 students at a time who pay £30 an hour for &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_41"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_23"&gt;tuition&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;). Its accounts, which are managed by Griffin senior showed a profit of only £2,214 for the 2007 financial year. This leaves you wondering; where does that money go?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Edgar Griffin, who was expelled from the Conservative Party in 2001 because of his links with the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_42"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_24"&gt;BNP&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_43"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_25"&gt;admits&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; that his clients &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_44"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_26"&gt;business&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; is '&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_45"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_27"&gt;substantial&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;'. &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_46"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_28"&gt;Citing&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; confidentiality he refused to tell the Guardian newspaper what the school did with its money. In the same article Simon Darby refused to comment on speculation that the BNP was receiving funds from the school. He stopped short of saying that in refusing to comment on the allegations he was 'just following orders' by stating that 'he had never met the man', but that he knew 'that [the Griffin family] knew him well'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have presented the case it is up to you to make up your mind as to whether or not the leader of a party that bases much of its its anti-immigration stance should be helping immigrants get work and become naturalised. I for one feel that it is highly ironic that immigrants are being made to donate to people who publically state that they don't think that they should even be allowed into the country in the first place. That Nick Griffin and Fiore should be involved with those who actually want to intergrate (like almost all immigrants do) and that these brave souls money might end up being used to agitate against them is quite frankly macarbe.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/feb/29/thefarright.italy"&gt;The Guardian Article&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.londra-facile.com/"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Easy London (Site is in Italian)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ezydictionary.com/Lingua-schools/UK/CL-English-Language-School-l1100.html"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;CL English (refrence on a listing site)&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_47"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_29"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1334128538826196445-5515303707326977576?l=liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/feeds/5515303707326977576/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/03/how-nick-griffin-made-his-millions.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/5515303707326977576'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/5515303707326977576'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/03/how-nick-griffin-made-his-millions.html' title='How Nick Griffin Made His Millions'/><author><name>Hull Road Liberal Democrats</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02980601963794063551</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1334128538826196445.post-824887188966875255</id><published>2009-03-26T13:55:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2009-03-26T14:50:26.554-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='South Birmingham BNP'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Anti South Birmingham BNP'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Vote in Birmingham Council Elections'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Birmingham BNP'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Anti BNP'/><title type='text'>South Birmingham BNP: Their Progress to Date</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Here is what our opponents are doing at the moment:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Every citizen of Birmingham should be ashamed that the BNP can get three branches established in our city.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They are kicking off their European Election campaign. The simple truth is that the BNP know they are no hoper's, that's why they pump so many resources into second order elections. Getting a seat, or seats in the European Parliament will give them credibility (not that it has helped UKIP).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Currently the BNP are drawing crowds in the low hundreds to hear them speak. I guess many of them are bused in. At the last election they were able to stand a candidate in every Ward-that's one candidate in all 40 Wards. Most of them kept their deposit...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;VOTE JUNE 4th 2009!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We are lucky in the West Midland European Constituency. Our seat threshold is set so high the BNP will never get. Turnout in Euro elections is never above 40%, so it is easy for the BNP to get a seemingly high result. This might transform itself into funding, media attention and eventually political power.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1334128538826196445-824887188966875255?l=liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/feeds/824887188966875255/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/03/south-birmingham-bnp-update.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/824887188966875255'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/824887188966875255'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/03/south-birmingham-bnp-update.html' title='South Birmingham BNP: Their Progress to Date'/><author><name>Hull Road Liberal Democrats</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02980601963794063551</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1334128538826196445.post-630343549381310419</id><published>2009-03-22T09:24:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-03-22T09:27:20.705-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='MC Hammer Parody'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Freaky Christians'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='I Like Big Bibles'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Freaky Faith'/><title type='text'>WTF???</title><content type='html'>&lt;object width="640" height="505"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/tI-xlbDzVbQ&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x5d1719&amp;color2=0xcd311b"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/tI-xlbDzVbQ&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x5d1719&amp;color2=0xcd311b" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="505"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A pretty goddam funny video.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A trip inside the warped mind of a believer.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1334128538826196445-630343549381310419?l=liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/feeds/630343549381310419/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/03/pretty-goddam-funny-video.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/630343549381310419'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/630343549381310419'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/03/pretty-goddam-funny-video.html' title='WTF???'/><author><name>Hull Road Liberal Democrats</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02980601963794063551</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1334128538826196445.post-5216208029245892285</id><published>2009-03-21T14:12:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-03-21T15:17:36.554-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Anti Communism in Brimingham'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='I hate the Socalist Workers Party'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='the SWP and Radical Islam'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Respect Birmingham'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='SWP Birmingham'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='SWP in Birmingham'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Socalist Workers Party'/><title type='text'>The Socalist Workers Party: Parasites?</title><content type='html'>The exploits of Militant Tendency in the 1980s are well known.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They nearly destroyed the Labour Party and helped clear the way for Thatcher's wholesale demolition of local government. Selfish, short sighted and blinkered, they are three polite ways to describe this 'party within a party'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Militant; was an evil seed born in the 1920s and 30s by Leon Trotsky himself and left to germinate in the body of the British socialist movement.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This blogger is no friend of the Labour Party, Unions or 'socialism' of any shade but he does respect Neil Kinnock's struggle against Trotskyist factions within his party.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Trotskyism is a cancerous ideology. Formed by a bitter Trotsky in the decade before his assassination it appears to be a wholesale rejection of the authoritarian strand of communism born from the ashes of post civil war Russia.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Trotsky paints a beautiful image of a pure communist world-a democratic world in which everyone chooses to be a communist. He apparently rejects the strictures of Marxist dialectics and avoids the pitfalls of Stalinism and Stalin's 'Socialism in One Country'. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is patently absurd. Is this peaceful Trotsky who places so much emphasis on choice and education the same man who starved millions in Southern Russia for daring to choose democracy or anarchism over Marxist Communism? The very same Trotsky who ordered the murders of several hundred thousand 'enemies of the revolution'? The man who placed his machine gunners behind the lines so as to shoot unarmed conscripts who fled in the middle of battle? Yes it is the same man.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is this man who's 80 year old ramblings still inspire Militant Tendencies successor; the Socialist Workers Party. The SWP is an essentially parasitic organisation that all progressives should avoid at any cost.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Leon Trotsky told his followers to infiltrate existing progressive organisations and use them to further the 'common cause'. He pointed to the British Labour Party as an organisation ripe for 'entryism'. This was militants goal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After Militants defeat in the 1980s the members merged with the SWP. The SWP proudly proclaims on their website that they are 'will to work with anyone who will &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;help build the moment&lt;/span&gt;'. Please compare those final four worlds with Trotsky's words from 1928. The Socialist Worker Party is a zombie that continues to proclaim Trotsky's oppressive, ill thought out, ideology through out the world by hijacking other organisations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just look at any anti-war march or anti-capitalist rally. Which parties name appears on the placards? Why, the SWP's of course!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is because the Socialist Workers Party has taken over the 'Stop the War Coalition' and uses its name to further their own pathetic 75+ year old crusade for world revolution.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or National Student Union has also been hijacked by this group of deluded perpetual teenagers and power grabbers. This denies moderate students and those who disagree with the SWP's outdated and brutal politics a say in how the organisation works and where they place their resources and campaigns.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Respect Party has now been totally hijacked by the SWP. The two parties are inseparable and have been coordinated just effectively as Hitler 'coordinated' the German Civil Service. A vote for Respect is a vote for revolutionary Marxism and the corpse of Leon Trotsky.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Most worrying of all is the SWP's involvement with radical Islam. Despite the paternalist instincts of many socialists and the state the so called 'proletariat' is more than capable of looking after themselves. For this reason they reject the desperate middle class despotsy of the radical left. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This has left the SWP and other extremist groups to find new targets. Today you are more likely to find a Marxist trying to 'build the movement' at a Mosque assisting those who hate freedom more than any student Marxist ever could in getting the law changed so they can oppress their female relatives and children.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is proof of the mercenary and ruthless nature of the SWP. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is also especially worrying in this era of heightened racial tensions and unemployment. Of course if you believe (millennial cult like) that the revolution is just round the corner little things like fascism and harmony between races and communities doesn't mean anything. After all peace and equality is just round the corner, isn't it?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course down here in the real world we are concerned about such things. We reject cheap ideology and doctrine and believe that the little things, like challenging prejudice and oppression in our neighbourhoods is the ay to go. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I for one do not hate the rich and want to set people free to be happy and unequal. As a liberal I do not want to control people, patronise them and force them to be equal in poverty. Even the poorest person wouldn't choose that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a final note think about this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The SWP can't get foot soldiers so what do they do? Get a load of young Muslim (mostly men) angry about Gaza or the Iraq War, create division not the (fascist sounding) 'unity' they so love so much, and then get them to chant their slogans and hold their banners. That then makes it look like they actually have support.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Such moves are stupid and small minded. Not only is it selling out. It is breeding support for the BNP. The BNP says that the UK is becoming like a 'Third World Country' with different groups fighting in the streets. The SWP only goes and gives them angry, dark skinned, young men smashing things up in (justified) anger. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is retarded and idiotic. They are creating polarisation, driving otherwise sensible people into the arms of extremists be they the BNP or radical clerics. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps they only want lots of people to buy badges and stickers from their front Unite Against Fascism? Capitalism cuts both ways:p&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1334128538826196445-5216208029245892285?l=liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/feeds/5216208029245892285/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/03/socalist-workers-party-parasites.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/5216208029245892285'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/5216208029245892285'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/03/socalist-workers-party-parasites.html' title='The Socalist Workers Party: Parasites?'/><author><name>Hull Road Liberal Democrats</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02980601963794063551</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1334128538826196445.post-4109822598163113208</id><published>2009-03-18T07:26:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-03-18T08:13:38.974-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Selly Oak Hosptial'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='NHS Reform'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Liberal Democrats Health Plans'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Who Owns the NHS'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Health in Birmingham'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='NHS'/><title type='text'>Q. Who owns the NHS? A. Nobody</title><content type='html'>The tragic deaths of 1,400 people on a single A&amp;E Ward in Staffordshire; over a period of just 3 years reminded me of a newspaper article I read a few years ago.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The colum was about how state owned companies and services; run by managers who get paid no matter what with little regard for 'clients' who may be hundreds of miles away care very little about the services they create.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The NHS is a text book case in this. The Health Minister has powers inherited; quite literally, from a Medieval Monarch. The NHS is no more broken in 2009 than it was in 1949, 1969, 1999, quite simply because it has a flawed design.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The National Health Service is the pinnacle of inhuman statist, corporatist, paternalistic folly. It showcases everything that was wrong about the political settlement post 1945. It was designed, in keeping with our feudal theme, to dispense the benefits of healthcare and sanitation to great full proles. Free healthcare is a noble aim, however, people's control over their own destiny must take priority over all other concerns. Otherwise you wined up with an unwhealdly, abrasive, corrupt and essentially heartless janopoly like the NHS. Such organisations become inefficient and subject to special interests. The petty politics of junior ministers, the news cycle and shop stewards.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is often forgotten now that before the NHS many areas of the UK had perfectly adequate public healthcare systems. Birmingham was offering NHS style care decades before Labour managed to win a majority at a General Election. The NHS can never hope to compete with a locally managed system.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If our Government ever wants to improve the health system then they should decentralise. Just by reversing the Thatcherite reforms of the 1980s that created target setting and took healthcare out of the hands of local bodies, who understood local priorities and needs we could make a start!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even better devolve the day to day running of healthcare to local authorities. Money to provide uniform coverage could come from central government if needs be. People could take control of their own health provision by encouraging health co-ops and private insurance. The private sector needs to be encouraged not scorned. Routine health and General Practice services could be provided a lot better by a private firm. Private firms have to look at customer satisfaction otherwise patients go elsewhere. A local GP with a monopoly on local care, soaking up grants for meeting Stalinesque targets, does not have this incentive.   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If healthcare was provided through mutuals and co-ops then the views of members would legally have to be taken into account. The NHS, despite some recent improvements, is yet to have this oversight.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You own your body, demand to take back your healthcare!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1334128538826196445-4109822598163113208?l=liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/feeds/4109822598163113208/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/03/q-who-owns-nhs-nobody.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/4109822598163113208'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/4109822598163113208'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/03/q-who-owns-nhs-nobody.html' title='Q. Who owns the NHS? A. Nobody'/><author><name>Hull Road Liberal Democrats</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02980601963794063551</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1334128538826196445.post-1390629742917609136</id><published>2009-03-17T14:52:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-03-17T15:08:45.497-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bill Evans'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Conservatives'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bournville Ward'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tim Huxtable'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bournville'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bournville Conservatives'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowheath'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nigel Dawkins'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Cotteridge'/><title type='text'>Bournville Conservatives</title><content type='html'>The Conservative Party has controlled Bournville Ward since 2003, lets review their achievements since then:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*A rise in 'anti-social behaviour'&lt;br /&gt;*Lots and lots of lamp-posts/fences painted a very unappealing shade of green.&lt;br /&gt;*Next to nothing about pot-holes.&lt;br /&gt;*Sold off the land upon which a local swimming pool was sighted to housing developers.&lt;br /&gt;*Blocked a new bus route which would have improved local transport greatly.&lt;br /&gt;*Attempted to block the construction of a new conference centre on the grounds that the (very tasteful) design was not keeping with the areas 'historic character'.&lt;br /&gt;*Banned the public consumption of alcohol and attempted to stop graffiti-whilst ignoring real anti-social behaviour.&lt;br /&gt;*Said behaviour was introduced to the area thanks to the housing policy of Conservative City Council.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nigel Dawkins has done nothing for his constituents in his 9 year term as city councillor. Keep him out of Parliament at the next election!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1334128538826196445-1390629742917609136?l=liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/feeds/1390629742917609136/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/03/bournville-conservatives.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/1390629742917609136'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/1390629742917609136'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/03/bournville-conservatives.html' title='Bournville Conservatives'/><author><name>Hull Road Liberal Democrats</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02980601963794063551</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1334128538826196445.post-5925092867603151331</id><published>2009-03-16T01:45:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-03-16T02:12:30.023-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Birmingham'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='History of Birmingham'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Community Relations'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='BNP Retards'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Anti BNP'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Intergration'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='BNP South Birmingham'/><title type='text'>Some Truths About Birmingham's History</title><content type='html'>&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/R7CLxfxyN4I&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/R7CLxfxyN4I&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There you have the BNP's take upon the history of Birmingham. May I just say r'tards!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They have a seriously selective historiographical memory.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's a few facts so you can make up your own mind about the history of this great 'Anglo-Irish' city:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;17th Century, The Huguenots; Protestant refugees from France, revolutionise industrial production in Birmingham*.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1740, the UK has a non white population of over 40,000*. Over 400 persons of ethnic minority origin live in Birmingham pop. 14,000 (3.5%)*.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1880 onwards, tens of thousands of Jews make Birmingham their home*. They are welcomed for their skills and granted asylum to escape persecution.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1900-1940, Over 15,000 Italians make their way to Birmingham*.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1923, The first Mosque is founded in Mosley Birmingham. Happy 86th birthday organised Islamic community:)!*&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1931, Ghandi is welcomed by the cities flourishing Indian community.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1934, Birmingham has 3 registered Sikh doctors*.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1948, Skilled labour from the Commonwealth comes to rebuild Birmingham, they are welcomed*.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1972, Birmingham is again rejuvenated by the arrival of highly skilled immigrants from Uganda*.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-1990s, Birmingham recognised as a beacon of integration by authorities world wide.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-2000s, Tourist office begins &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;specifically&lt;/span&gt; promoting Birmingham's long settled immigrant communities; e.g. Balti Triangle*.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-2009 BNP release a hilarious video that is taken the piss out of by everyone who knows and loves Birmingham.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sources:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*Robert Winder-Bloody Foreigners 2004&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*Don Dick-Birmingham a City and Her People 2005&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*Pav Singh-Ethnic Minorities in Birmingham 1934-1995 1997&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*Birmingham Council Tourist Literature circa. 2009&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*50 Years On-Trevor Philips 1998&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1334128538826196445-5925092867603151331?l=liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/feeds/5925092867603151331/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/03/some-truths-about-birminghams-history.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/5925092867603151331'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/5925092867603151331'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/03/some-truths-about-birminghams-history.html' title='Some Truths About Birmingham&apos;s History'/><author><name>Hull Road Liberal Democrats</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02980601963794063551</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1334128538826196445.post-7811361439958659794</id><published>2009-03-15T09:07:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-03-15T09:15:48.132-07:00</updated><title type='text'>First Post</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family: arial;"&gt;This is my first post on this blog so it may seem a little random.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;OK, I decided to create this page after seeing a few friends blogs and deciding that I could do that to. The reason for the name is quite simple. I consider my self a liberal and I support the liberal democrats. However, I do not fully agree with them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm currently in two minds about whether or not to join the party because whilst I do not want to get involved with party politics; or to toe some party line. I do nevertheless want to see a more liberal Britain and wish to combat the spread of the far right.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For this reason I feel that all right thinking people should get involved with politics and fight the BNP and other such organisations at a local level before they get entrenched.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1334128538826196445-7811361439958659794?l=liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/feeds/7811361439958659794/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/03/first-post.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/7811361439958659794'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1334128538826196445/posts/default/7811361439958659794'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://liberalkindademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/03/first-post.html' title='First Post'/><author><name>Hull Road Liberal Democrats</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02980601963794063551</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>
